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rdolan
03-25-2008, 04:56 AM
Usually, I enjoy Buchanan on MSNBC, even though I disagree with him a lot.

This little piece, however, flashes that irrational white male "conservatism" that I figured was lingering in him somewhere.

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"A Brief for Whitey" (http://buchanan.org/blog/?p=969)

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.
Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ’60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks — with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas — to advance black applicants over white applicants.

Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.
We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude?


(Strangely enough, Buchanan doesn't mention that after 400 years of living in the same continent and country as white people, blacks still have sub-standard public education, health care, and job prospects as their white counterparts.)

Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America? Is it really white America’s fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?


Let's see. 244 years of slavery + 100 years of Jim Crow laws + 40 years of still inferior education and a drug war that primarily imprisons black men = White man's fault. I'm not that good at math, but I think I got that one right. I'm just a crazy liberal what do I know?

As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?

Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?


Give Buchanan credit, (without crediting where he got his "stats") when he wants to stoke supreme racial prejudice, he knows to bring out the old "black men are going to rape your wives and daughters" bit. He's this close to writing "we should bring back lynching." Is Buchanan aware that more black men are in jail that in college? (http://www.socialistworker.org/2002-2/420/420_12_JailsVCollege.shtml) He probably is, but that's not a societal problem, right? That's personal responsibility. I mean blacks, given a choice between education and a good job, chose a life of crime, because it made more sense to them in the long run. Right? That's a fundamental flaw that we can wholly blame on black society.


Maybe that's his next column.

And finally:

Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago.


Ah yes, I forgot. Like many Baby Boomers, Buchanan thinks 344 years of slavery and oppression were wiped out with a single Civil Rights Bill. They passed that bill, and thought their responsibility was over. 344 years of degradation and murder, gone!. Clean slate! Not our problem anymore! You should be lucky we don't ship you back to Africa!

Pat Buchanan, everybody.

Wendy!
03-25-2008, 04:25 PM
Wow....this is just amazing to me. I mean, I'm not naive to racism, I spent some of my childhood in Florida, but it still amazes me. Especially with this campaign, I think people feel as if it's their right to express themselves like this because Barack is running. As if he should take the fall for the whole of his race because he has chosen to put himself in such a position. I really enjoy how Buchanan is like, "Is Barack aware...."
Ummm...yeah, I think he is aware Pat, thanks for the update on those stats. Obama knew what he was up against when he decided to run for president and I have more respect for him than ever for that. As a supporter, it's really hard to be hopeful for his campaign when people still think and talk the way Buchanan does and even worse.
I've been having more conversations about race lately then I think I've ever had before and to be honest, it's scaring me. Not only from places where you would normally expect, like some extremely Catholic family, but I've been hearing it even over on the yesand board, they were talking about how Obama's gimmick is that he is a "safe black politician". Really??? Really people? He did try to keep his race out of it, but nobody else would. He was pretty much forced to make that speech (which I thought was beautifully crafted) and he gets shit for it. Damned if you do, damed if you don't.

I mean I don't fully agree with Wright's rant, but I also don't think he needs to "get down on his knees and thank God that he is an American"....not when people are still talking the way you are Mr. Buchanan. There is obviously a ton of work to do in unifying this nation, and I honestly don't know how it is going to get done. Like I said, I feel a little deflated. If African-Americans still feel this way, what hope does a second-generation Latin-American like me have when people still think Hispanic means Mexican, when people are surprised by my brown skin when they meet me because I don't "sound" hispanic over the phone, when people look at me weird when I'm in certain neighborhoods, when I've been racially profiled and pulled over because I was the only Hispanic girl in a car full of Hispanic guys, nevermind they were my cousins and we were on our way back from doing community work.

The fact is this shit is real and tangible and I'm afraid. But as much as I'm disheartened I am fueled by the fact that we have come a long way. I'm fueled by my peers, by the youth of this country, who have been coming out and voting more than any other election in the past 20 years. I guess I will take my cue from Obama who still stands strong in the face of all of this criticsm, who has taken more flack from the media and the country than any other candidate since JFK.

Thanks for posting this Ryan, it keeps me grounded, it keeps me fighting.

Biddle
03-25-2008, 05:13 PM
Equally depressing are the nasty, racist comments that have been posted over on the Fox News website...

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/03/20/draft-racist-remarks-on-fox-news-website-where-is-oreillys-crack-team-now/

Here's a direct quote:

Wow! Jan L. nailed it right on the head! Reparations? I’m waiting for my thank you! You blacks would be naked and eating bugs if it weren’t for white people. Name ONE successful society started by blacks. Any sign of civilization in Africa was started by Europeans. Any city in America with predominately black leaders is a cesspool. Look at New Orleans, Philadelphia, D.C., Detroit…

and...


I am sooo tired of hearing how the black man has been mistreated since he was shipped over here to help build America! All I hear is them groveling over being victims.

They are the ones making themselves the victims with their attitude that whites owe them something for bringing their ancestors to the best country that has ever existed. All my life I have only witnessed the blacks with their hands out to the government expecting it to give them everything they want and shouting racist if they don’t get it! No wonder most whites have the opinion that blacks are worthless, lazy sloths who know only how to make more babies and steal everything not nailed down. Barak Lenin Obama, the big eared Muslim, is only fostering this “wo is me” attitude with his obvious prejudices. I, for one, like my white race over that of any other, so does that make me a racist? I don’t thing so. The black man will not break free from his self-imposed shackles until he picks himself up, dusts himself off and begins to provide for himself just like every other race has done who came to this country. Before the blacks can do this, however, they have to rid themselves of the likes of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Farakan, and the good reverend Wright.

How fucking depressing is that?

These are the people who A.) use Fox News web forum so much that they post there on a regular basis and B.) vote.

It's just shameful.

COB

proxy
03-25-2008, 05:34 PM
I dunno...there's a point where you're TOO crazy to vote, maybe they're in that group?

The scary ones are the people JUST crazy enough to post these things, AND sane enough to vote. The high-functioning crazies. Like me. But, you know, I'm crazy in non-racist ways.

RonK
03-25-2008, 05:46 PM
Name ONE successful society started by blacks. Any sign of civilization in Africa was started by Europeans.

Quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever read.

I guess the Egyptians weren't "Black" enough.

Though if they are talking about Sub-Saharan Africa, they might want to look up Great Zimbabwe or the Ashanti.

Wendy!
03-25-2008, 05:49 PM
I dunno...there's a point where you're TOO crazy to vote, maybe they're in that group?


Nope, they are crazy enough to vote, ask Florida in 2000 and 2004. Sad but true

proxy
03-25-2008, 05:55 PM
Nope, they are crazy enough to vote, ask Florida in 2000 and 2004. Sad but true

waaait a sec, weren't YOU in Florida in 2000? And isn't it a little convinient that now, you're in Illinois...Obama's state? And didn't I see you on the grassy knoll? I sense a conspiracy!

Vote Romney, people! The Liberals are trying to trick you into thinking he's no longer in the race! They almost got me, too! Bewaaaaaare!

robbersean
03-25-2008, 07:52 PM
Buchanan needs to lay off of Obama, and get back to his biggest cause- building a wall between Mexico and the United States.