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robbersean
06-26-2007, 12:51 PM
Double Murder, Suicide?

Man there have been some tragic wrestler related deaths in the last few years, but this one takes the cake.

I love wrestling. I've always loved it since i was a wee bitty child, but every time I hear about something like this, it makes me wonder what WWE is putting in their water.

BigHig
06-26-2007, 01:54 PM
I'm pretty sure it's steroids.

Omega
06-26-2007, 02:25 PM
This had nothing to do with steroids, it's being investigated as a homicide. This is just weird, of all the people why Chris Benoit?

TommyP
06-26-2007, 02:28 PM
This had nothing to do with steroids, it's being investigated as a homicide. This is just weird, of all the people why Chris Benoit?

How do you know it has nothing to do with steroids? It's being investigated as a murder/suicide as they are not pursuing any possible suspects. Roid rage kills.

Omega
06-26-2007, 02:37 PM
Holy crap, as soon as I wrote that I went and read the newest report and Chris Benoit killed his family. I never thought I would write that, somehow I always just put him in a class above alot of the guys in the industry who have had issues. I mean, after Eddie Guerrero died it'd be pretty tough to keep doing steroids if you had before. This is messed up.

POPS
06-26-2007, 03:05 PM
Well here's my first post on this tragedy...

Yesterday was fucked up, right before practice we saw the headline on WWE.com. we thought it my be a work but then when they mentioned his family we knew it was for shoot.

Here's what rumors I know...

He was home friday. possibly killed Women and Danny as early as Friday Night. He was sending some strange text msgs around 4:30 am on Saturday morning saying he can't make the house show. Possibly to Dean or Chavo. They called to check up. no word or response until he calls in Sunday to no show on the PPV where he was supposed to win the ECW title.

Police are saying that he didn't use a gun and that there is another instrument of death that was found. His body was found in the workout room, Women in the living room, and their son in his bed. Which makes me believe that he and Women got into it, he killed her, then killed his son in his bed. unless it was infanticide via Women and Benoit snapped and killed her. I doubt it though. I think she may have been banging another worker and he found out, or was threatening to leave him. WWE called police to do a check up on the house via the strange text msgs on monday morning. that's when they found them all after they got by Benoits German Shepards gaurd dogs.

I never would have picked Benoit out of all the guys on the roster to lose his shit like this. After meeting him 2 weeks ago and being pretty much the biggest and most impressive star I've ever met and respected, this is a true shocker to me. I loved and respected every Benoit performance I've ever seen. He was the best wrestler that has ever stepped into the ring to perform.

Roids. Depression. Self Medicating with pills. coming off roids or pills. are probably the root causes for him to loose it. I've seen how some of these guys handle life crisis and depression and it's not pretty. I thank god that I consider myself well adjusted and able to deal with most situations. I just can't understand how a man like Benoit who did it all through hard work, athleticism, and dedication would give it all up to do this sick shit the night before he wins a world title.

truly fucked up situation-
POPS

Omega
06-26-2007, 03:12 PM
Wasn't Eddie supposed to win the strap the night he died? I mean, it's a little bizarre, there's gonna be alot of parallels I am sure drawn between the two before this is all over. I have no idea where the WWE will go from here, considering the path they have been taking creatively as of late. I can't see this going away anytime soon.

POPS
06-26-2007, 03:19 PM
McMahon broke it off last night and started the show in the ring in an empty arena. they canceled RAW and did a 3 hr dedication show.

yes Eddie was supposed to get the strap that night.

Mike Awesome hanging, Scary Sherry OD, and now this all in less than 5 months.

fucked up-
POPS

Omega
06-26-2007, 03:38 PM
Yeah, i caught some of the show. I didn't know if Vince planned on going back to it. And all that show before they knew Benoit was responsible for the murders. This must be chilling for everyone involved, hell I feel really weird and I only knew him as a guy I watched growing up performing. He was the epitimy of what you wanted in a performer, not the best on the mike, but he didn't need it. You knew he meant buisness every night.

POPS
06-26-2007, 04:47 PM
TMZ has learned more about the deaths of WWE wrestling superstar Chris Benoit, his wife and son -- and the information is extremely disturbing.

Several Atlanta-based law enforcement sources have told TMZ Benoit may have strangled his wife on Saturday, then smothered his son in his bed a day later. Investigators refuse to officially comment, pending final confirmation by the coroner on the cause and time of the deaths.

One source told TMZ that Benoit was texting friends during Sunday's WWE "Vengeance" Pay-Per-View program -- possibly watching the show with his son, who may have been alive at the time.

According to sources, Benoit then hanged himself Monday in a weight room inside the family home.

Gass
06-26-2007, 04:52 PM
This saddens me when this happens to a family. The Downstate shooting, the Ohio women, what the Hell is happening?

Omega
06-26-2007, 05:05 PM
"who may have been alive." This is gonna be disturbing when it all gets released. I can't imagine this at all, woman dead in one room, with Chris and his son in another room watching a ppv? It's been reported that in 03' Woman filed a restraining order against Chris stating she felt threatened and that he threatened her and the belongings of the house. How nuts was Chris? He seemed so level headed.

Hawkins
06-26-2007, 05:31 PM
he also had the death of friend and tag partner Biff Wellington on his mind.

3 PM ET press conference.

I met Nancy and Chris (not yet a couple) back in 94 in Philly. Both were super nice and we talked (Nancy was far more engaging) for a while.

Crago
06-26-2007, 06:01 PM
I was off last night and decided to catch RAW. I hadn't seen it in a while and figured I'd catch up. I read the info for the show and it said something like, "Memorial Service for Mr. McMahon." I thought he really died, but then found it fishy that I didn't hear anything at all about it. I figured I'd have seen it on Yahoo or Google. Then the show opens with Benoit's death being talked about. I didn't know if it was a hoax or not. Obviously it wasn't.

POPS. I guess what I'm looking for here is what was the McMahon death-thing all about?

Gass
06-26-2007, 07:22 PM
Just some silly storyline that is pointless now.

POPS
06-26-2007, 07:43 PM
POPS. I guess what I'm looking for here is what was the McMahon death-thing all about?

Rehash of the "Who Shot J.R.?" angle from Dallas. they left it opened ended creatively until they guaged viewer response. Plus the way The Sopranos ended they knew it would be a cheap pop for a big cliffhanger ending. something unexpected. Then Sherry Martel OD'd and people started runnin for cover creatively because they thought their might be scandal. After this they just stopped the story because life is stranger than fiction at this point.

Plus the media is just building up a huge bomb of steroid talk and charges so they can play this shit out and try and bring Vince and the business down. I'm sure they are at Defcon 4 in Stamford right now putting up as many walls to insulate themselves as they can. Vince already hates the media and he'll be out for blood if anybody comes after him.

Crago
06-26-2007, 08:21 PM
Gotcha'. Either way, it is too bad about Benoit and the others.



In any rate, keep doing what you're doing, big man.

Omega
06-26-2007, 08:29 PM
Yes! Pops! Don't stop! For real, this is either going to kill or revitalize the wrestling industry. I hope it does the later, and Vince learns to move away from alot of his storylines and focus' more on what goes on between the ropes. This is so sad, I have been rocked all day by this, and so much other shit that happened this weekend. I tended to a bike rider in a hit and run two nights ago, just holding a t-shirt to his bloody head watching his eyes roll around. That was a fucking head trip, and then to wake up to this... seriously, the f Chris.

Omega
06-26-2007, 10:18 PM
He leaves bibles next to the bodies? This is too planned out to be roid rage, I mean, this is really sick. He had to have taken his time with this, and then to use his weight machine to do it. Man, Chris, why? Poor Chavo, this is going to be terrible. Is wrestling over? I feel like it is for some reason.

POPS
06-27-2007, 12:04 AM
He leaves bibles next to the bodies? This is too planned out to be roid rage, I mean, this is really sick. He had to have taken his time with this, and then to use his weight machine to do it. Man, Chris, why? Poor Chavo, this is going to be terrible. Is wrestling over? I feel like it is for some reason.

when it comes crashin down, and it hurts inside...

Hawkins
06-27-2007, 03:33 PM
He leaves bibles next to the bodies? This is too planned out to be roid rage, I mean, this is really sick. He had to have taken his time with this, and then to use his weight machine to do it. Man, Chris, why? Poor Chavo, this is going to be terrible. Is wrestling over? I feel like it is for some reason.

I think the suicide was planned

I think the bibles were probably left AFTER the deeds.

I'm still left in wonderment about why he killed his wife and felt the need to tie her up. The kid's murder was done after he had time to dwell on the murder of his wife and was more of a "better to die than live a life of hell"

Although part of me thinks he tied her up AFTER he killed her to make it look like a robbery. That he killed her accidentally in a fight, and decided he'd never get away with it.

POPS
06-27-2007, 04:08 PM
I think the suicide was planned

I think the bibles were probably left AFTER the deeds.

I'm still left in wonderment about why he killed his wife and felt the need to tie her up. The kid's murder was done after he had time to dwell on the murder of his wife and was more of a "better to die than live a life of hell"

Although part of me thinks he tied her up AFTER he killed her to make it look like a robbery. That he killed her accidentally in a fight, and decided he'd never get away with it.

sorry but way off. Here's the most likely explanation. to explain everything for 2K3 to present day.

2001 The Radicals (Saturn, Melenko, Benoit, and Guerrero) lead the demise of WCW by jumping ship to WWE.

2002 Benoit has to have neck fused off the road for 9 months while his wife bitches at him while home to leave the business.

2003 tells wife he's going back on the road full time, big fight. she threatens to leave him w/ the kids. he tells her it's only for a few more years. Bg fight, order of protection issued.

2005 Guerrero dies from overdose on gimmicks and depression. Chris becomes depressed, also on gimmicks. for the next 2 years his wife demands that he leave the business before he ends up like Eddie.

2007 Benoit Traded to ECW to give it credibility in a time when champions are dropping like flies due to years of injuries. After telling his wife for the past few years that he is going to take time off he is now given the torch to carry the whole ECW brand. She calls and says something like "If you don't come home right now I'm taking the kids and you'll never see us again". Benoit goes home. Fight ensues Friday night. She tries to leave, he knocks her out/down, he ties her up. Blood around the mouth is from domestic violence of some kind. He tries to calm her down but she flips again, he rages and chokes her out.

realizes what he's done. tries to think of cover up. can't. accepts his final demise. watches PPV with son that he should have won the title at, while mom is dead in the other room. son goes to bed. plastic bag suffocation while he sleeps.

places bibles. sends text msgs while all fucked up on pills. Goes to weight room. does his deed.

that's more of the way we put it together. which is probably a more real wrestling business/life way things work.

the road is fuckin hard-
POPS

Hawkins
06-27-2007, 05:03 PM
I'll buy that and also add in the death of Biff/Beef Wellington a couple days prior adding to the depression

Fenstermaker
06-27-2007, 09:06 PM
The detail I find odd and extremely sad is that the little boy had needle marks in his arms because they were giving him growth hormones for being undersized.

Do you think he was truly undersized? Or do you think that as a wrestler, Benoit had a skewed view of how large his child should/could be?

Hawkins
06-27-2007, 09:34 PM
The detail I find odd and extremely sad is that the little boy had needle marks in his arms because they were giving him growth hormones for being undersized.

Do you think he was truly undersized? Or do you think that as a wrestler, Benoit had a skewed view of how large his child should/could be? it was for treatment of Fragile X Syndrome, not necessarily because they thought he was undersized and normal

Fenstermaker
06-28-2007, 02:37 PM
Got it. The espn.com article I read failed to mention that detail.

POPS
06-28-2007, 02:40 PM
you want faster quality info...

www.wrestlezone.com

TommyP
06-28-2007, 06:25 PM
This story just gets weirder...


Web Time Stamps Indicate Benoit Death Reported About 14 Hours Before Police Found Bodies

Thursday , June 28, 2007
By Blane Bachelor

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An anonymous user operating a computer traced to Stamford, Conn. — home to World Wrestling Entertainment — posted an entry to pro wrestler Chris Benoit's biography on Wikipedia.org announcing the death of his wife Nancy about 14 hours before police in suburban Atlanta said they found her body along with her husband's and that of their 7-year-old son, FOXNews.com has learned.

Employees at Wikipedia.com said the posting went live on their site on Monday at 12:01 a.m. Eastern Standard Time. Police, however, said they found the bodies Monday at 2:30 p.m. EDT.

Wikipedia.org's computers are set to record Standard and Universal Time, a spokesman told FOXNews.com.

The posting reads: “Chris Benoit was replaced by [[Johnny Nitro]] for the ECW Championship match at Vengeance, as Benoit was not there due to personal issues, stemming from the death of his wife Nancy.”

The posting was apparently made in reference to Benoit's scheduled appearance on Sunday night at an Extreme Championship Wrestling event in Texas, with the last phrase noted in red to indicate an edit made to the original entry.

An employee from Wikipedia.org told FOXNews.com that he called and left a message with investigative authorities in Fayetteville, Ga., at around 11 a.m. EDT on Tuesday, after the posting was brought to the attention of the St. Petersburg, Fla.-based Web site.

“I chat with other editors on IRC -- Internet relay chat -- and somebody pointed it out to me on a relay chat and that it came from a Stamford connection, and that it took place at midnight Eastern Standard Time on Monday morning,” said Wikipedia.org volunteer coordinator Cary Bass. “I called and left a message with the police department.”

The computer-generated time and date stamp of the Benoit entry are listed as 4:01, 25 June 2007. Wikipedia.org lists its entries according to Universal Time, also known as Greenwich Mean Time.

A message left by FOXNews.com with Lt. Tommy Pope of the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department was not immediately returned.

Investigators so far have ruled the Benoit killings as a double homicide-suicide.

Wikipedia.org claims to be one of the largest reference Web sites, and is written collaboratively by users from around the world. Approved users can make submissions and change entries that are posted on the site almost immediately. Bass said the site is constantly monitored to correct inaccuracies.

Bass said when there is a high-profile case, such as the Benoit killlings, Wikipedia.org limits postings to registered users, which is now indicated at the top of the Benoit entry. According to the listed history on the Benoit entry, the computer used to post the 12:01 a.m. entry had a Stamford, Conn., Internet Protocol — or IP — address, a numeric designation that is assigned to every computer with an Internet connection, and that same address has been used to post about a dozen other messages on the site, dating back to May 16, 2007.

FOXNews.com also has learned, through widely posted Web reports, that former pro wrestler Sherri Martel, who was found dead on June 15, was linked to former wrestler Kevin Sullivan — ex-husband of Nancy Benoit.
Martel, who had a reputation as one of the top managers in pro wrestling, was found dead at her mother’s home in near Birmingham, Ala., on June 15. She was 49.

Investigators, who have not yet determined Martel's cause of death, say foul play is not suspected but that Martel did not die of natural causes.

moon_shoes
06-28-2007, 07:03 PM
Im going to solve this

Crago
06-28-2007, 07:13 PM
Hang on a fucking second....

http://www.ryanwilliambush.com/crago/images/tommyp.jpg

http://www.ryanwilliambush.com/crago/images/tommyp2.jpg


...uhhhhhhhhh. I'm going back to the invite only board. See ya' guys later.

matthewp
06-28-2007, 07:20 PM
I do remember she was an amazing wrestling valet back in the 80's. She was a valet to her ex-Kevin Sullivan who was the leader of these demented wrestlers like Fallen Angel, and missing link in the Florida territories. When they moved to WCW Kevin Sullivan, her husband at the time created a story line where she was the valet to benoit. essentially Sullivan without knowing it fixed them up. Its a shame this happened, and unbeliebale he could choke his family out. The commonality I see with all these husbands killing their famiies is that they dont stand out as people who would do something like that. Its almost like they put on these nice guy personas in public then they turn the crazy switch on behind close doors.

Run
06-28-2007, 07:40 PM
Its almost like they put on these nice guy personas in public then they turn the crazy switch on behind close doors.

They can be so fake ... like wrestling.

TommyP
06-28-2007, 07:59 PM
Hang on a fucking second....

http://www.ryanwilliambush.com/crago/images/tommyp.jpg

http://www.ryanwilliambush.com/crago/images/tommyp2.jpg


...uhhhhhhhhh. I'm going back to the invite only board. See ya' guys later.

(TommyP kicks Crago's ass out the door. Crago falls headlong onto the sidewalk.)

And stay out!

(TommyP slams door and claps the dust off his hands. The CiN throngs cheer. Gilley holds the weeping Crago until he falls asleep in Gilley's arms.)

Omega
06-29-2007, 02:40 AM
Anyone catch that Vince interview on the Today show? They were not giving him any flack over the steroid thing, if Benoit is juiced when the toxicology report comes out... yeesh.

Omega
06-29-2007, 03:44 PM
You know, I had held out hope that there really weren't steroids involved in this incident, or at least that they weren't at the root of it, but after reading this interview with Debra Marshall I am at a loss. Oh, and I hate Steve Austin. Is anyone at least a little glad John Cena is the face of the company right now?

Former WCW and WWE (http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=25207&p=1#) personality Debra Marshall and Superstar Graham were interviewed on Fox News' Hannity & Colmes tonight in regard to the Benoit family tragedy.

It was noted that a big part of the Benoit tragedy story now is "roid rage" and that steroids were found in Chris Benoit's home, which led to his doctor's office being raided by the DEA.

Marshall, who started the show alone, was asked how rampant steroid use was in WWE during the time period she was married to Stone Cold Steve Austin (http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=25207&p=1#). She said, "All I can say is what I know from being married to Steve Austin and he definitely told me he used them and I've seen him do that before, but then, if you think about it, look at the record, look at the record of how many wrestlers, the record pretty much tells it all - 60 wrestlers have died in 10 years under the age of 45 and how many had enlarged hearts and all that. It's just so sad because something has to be done."

Marshall was asked if she's seen violent behavior and whether it was discussed with her by other wrestlers. Marshall responded, "No, in this business it's a very hush-hush kind of business and especially me being a wrestler, being in the business, there is sort of a code of silence. For me to talk about it now - I never talked about my domestic abuse with Steve Austin or having him arrested - it's something you just don't do."

Debra was asked if Austin was violent and if she attributed it to steroids. "I'll tell you what, I know it was attributed to steroids. I've seen his rages. I've seen him being paranoid. I've seen his panic attacks. I mean, for three times, I've seen him attack me. At work, people would know it and they'd cover the bruises on my face "

Marshall was asked if the violence she experienced made her believe that someone could be pushed to act the way Chris Benoit did. "Absolutely and I've never talked about this. The last time Steve attacked - alcohol was involved. He jumped on me with his knee in my back pounding me in the back and in the face. I thought I was going to die and I can totally understand what Nancy felt in the last few seconds of her life. I thought I was going to die."

Marshall was asked if anything was ever said to her about the bruises. "No. They're not going to rat on the top moneymaker in wrestling and everyone else knew this was going on but no one was going to stop it because Steve would make millions of dollars for Vince [McMahon]. I just knew when this happened to Nancy and her seven year old little boy. Maybe if I spoke up before, I could have saved Nancy and her boy. "
It was said that there was a cover-up by WWE of "all this domestic abuse." Debra nodded and said, "Yes. To WWE, the wrestlers, we're nothing but tools. We're moneymakers. The people that make all the most money - you don't want bad publicity on them. They're the ones that sell the T-shirts. They're the ones that make the most money. They make the draw. For to have Stone Cold (http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=25207&p=1#) Steve Austin arrested? Oh my God. They so put that under the table. They hush hushed it and had me sign a gag order on me for a year that I couldn't talk about this because I could totally bring down their top star."

WWE's statement that the Benoit murders were acts of deliberation not roid rage was read. Debra responded, "You know what I think? They're excellent at deflecting the heat on them. They're deflecting the heat and they're trying to insert another story to get people...to get it away from the steroid rage. I know it as fact that when Steve Austin, the last time he was pounding on me - his rage, his eyes were bugging out of his head, it was a rage, it was the most horrifying thing you've ever seen. When I called the cops, he ran out the door, yanked the phone lines out, unplugged the garage door openers, yanked the wires out, so I couldn't leave. There's something similar to all this."

POPS
07-02-2007, 09:59 PM
this could be shattering for WWE if other guys who aren't dead get their shit from him.

Breaking News: Benoit Prescribed Massive Amounts Of Steroids
07/02/2007 by Ryan Clark

A Fox News Channel report said that records obtained by investigators show that between May 2006 and May 2007, Dr. Phil Astin prescribed Chris Benoit "a ten month supply of steroids" every three to four weeks. The report stated that every three to four weeks, Benoit would get a new ten-month supply.

Ryan Clark is Paul Heyman btw-
POPS

Omega
07-02-2007, 10:48 PM
From the way Vince has been acting I wouldn't be surprised to find out he had knowledge of this and even encouraged it.

But hey, TNA has a TV deal with FOX in the works.

Hawkins
07-03-2007, 05:49 AM
From the way Vince has been acting I wouldn't be surprised to find out he had knowledge of this and even encouraged it.

much like Sy Sperling, I'd also say he was a client

Still Just Visiting
07-06-2007, 11:02 AM
What's the latest on this, Pops?

POPS
07-06-2007, 02:46 PM
a lot of heat on Dr. Astin who prescribed all the shit to Benoit. Apparently the found some paperwork with the initials MJ and OT. which have supposedly been stooged out to be Mark Jindrack and Rey Mesterio. There may also be more they find out about.

WWE pretty much had put up every wall they can to protect them from the media building a steroid case against them. On TV storylines are back to ground level 0, after the draft, the vince death angle, and benoit all crashing down at the same time. So RAW blew this week.

The main thing that they have going against them as a testimony is from Debra McMicheals/Austin she talks about the domestic violence that she's seen and had done to her by various wrestlers. That's the main valid word that has been damaging in the news. Ted Dibiase has done some nice Fox News Spin doctoring for the company.

bottom line though. live house gates are up because on the fence fans are watching now that we are in the major media.

3:1 bets that Angle is next-
gimmick POPS

JPanic
07-07-2007, 06:32 PM
<sigh> Why can't today's wrestlers bulk up naturally like Scott Steiner......

POPS
07-08-2007, 04:22 AM
his drop foot syndrome is from direct excessive deca use.

shoot-
POPS

IreneM
07-09-2007, 05:38 PM
More info on the wiki article courtesy of the New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/09/business/media/09link.html

TommyP
07-17-2007, 07:04 PM
...Breaking...


Steroids, other drugs found in Benoit's body

Pro wrestler killed wife and 7-year-old son before hanging himself in June

BREAKING NEWS

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DECATUR, Ga. - Investigators said Tuesday they found steroids and other drugs in the body of pro wrestler Chris Benoit, who killed his wife and young son last month before hanging himself in the family’s home.

Besides steroids, Benoit’s body contained the anti-anxiety drug Xanax and the painkiller hydrocodone, according to a statement from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. The GBI said Benoit tested negative for blood alcohol.

Benoit’s wife, Nancy, tested positive for Xanax, hydrocodone and the painkiller hydromorphone.

The son, Daniel Benoit had Xanax in his system, the agency said. The GBI said it could not perform tests for steroids or human growth hormones on the son because of a lack of urine.

The test results were expected to shed more light on Benoit’s last moments. Authorities said Benoit killed his wife and 7-year-old son in their suburban Atlanta home, placed Bibles next to their bodies and then hanged himself on the cable of a weight machine.

Anabolic steroids were found in the home, leading officials to wonder if the drugs played a role in the killings. Some experts believe steroids can cause paranoia, depression and violent outbursts known as “roid rage.”

Federal authorities have charged Benoit’s personal physician, Dr. Phil Astin, with improperly prescribing painkillers and other drugs to two patients other than Benoit. He has pleaded not guilty.

Investigators have also raided Astin’s office several times since the deaths, seizing prescription records and other documents.

Before he was charged, Astin told the AP he prescribed testosterone for Benoit, a longtime friend, in the past. He would not say what, if any, medications he prescribed when Benoit visited his office June 22, the day authorities believe Benoit killed his wife.

© 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

Omega
07-17-2007, 07:12 PM
damn, beat me to it.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/article.php?articleid=186705793

no steroids, Vince must be breathing a sigh of relief. He sedated Daniel? How creepy.

TommyP
07-17-2007, 07:14 PM
damn, beat me to it.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/article.php?articleid=186705793

no steroids, Vince must be breathing a sigh of relief. He sedated Daniel? How creepy.

Whattaya mean, "no steroids"? They DID find steroids along with other prescription medications in his body.

Still Just Visiting
07-18-2007, 09:25 PM
What's the latest on this, Pops?

Omega
07-18-2007, 10:20 PM
Whattaya mean, "no steroids"? They DID find steroids along with other prescription medications in his body.

No ANABOLIC steroids, just testosterone which could have been prescribed for a variety of different reasons. This all looks more and more thought out, it's so surprising to me that no one could see something like this coming. You'd think identifying someone this deranged would have been easier.

Frank Vu
07-18-2007, 10:53 PM
Seems to me that professional wrestling combines the worst aspects of sports, theater and murder-suicides.

TommyP
07-18-2007, 11:28 PM
No ANABOLIC steroids, just testosterone which could have been prescribed for a variety of different reasons. This all looks more and more thought out, it's so surprising to me that no one could see something like this coming. You'd think identifying someone this deranged would have been easier.

Ummm...ten (10!) times the normal level of testosterone and a synthetic sex hormone considered an ANABOLIC steroid. Along with the Xanax and the hydrocodone, it makes for a tasty evening cocktail.


Steroids Found in Pro Wrestler's Body
Wednesday, July 18, 2007
By GREG BLUESTEIN, Associated Press Writer

DECATUR, Ga. — Pro wrestler Chris Benoit had more than 10 times the normal level of testosterone in his system when he killed his wife and young son and hanged himself, but investigators could not say if it played a role in the killings.

Besides the heightened level of testosterone, a synthetic version of the primary male sex hormone that is considered an anabolic steroid, Benoit's body tested positive for the anti-anxiety drug Xanax and the painkiller hydrocodone, authorities said Tuesday.


Dr. Kris Sperry, the state's top medical examiner, said it appeared the testosterone was injected shortly before Benoit died.


He said there was no evidence of any other steroids in the wrestler's body, and nothing to show that steroids played a role in the death of Nancy and Daniel Benoit. He also said Daniel, 7, appeared to have been sedated when he was asphyxiated, and Benoit's wife had a "therapeutic" level of sedatives in her body.


There is no consensus that the use of testosterone can contribute to paranoia, depression and violent outbursts known as "roid rage," Sperry pointed out.


"There is conflicting scientific data as to whether or not testosterone creates mental disorders or leads to outbursts of rage. There's data that suggests it and other data that refute it," he said. "Essentially, I think it's an unanswerable question."


The Georgia Bureau of Investigation said Chris Benoit tested negative for alcohol. Investigators had been eager to determine whether alcohol was a factor in the killings after 10 empty beer cans were found in the home, as well as an empty wine bottle a few feet from where Benoit hanged himself.
Benoit killed his wife and son, placed Bibles next to their bodies and then hanged himself on the cable of a weight machine. After the slayings, prescription anabolic steroids were found in the family's home, raising questions about whether the drugs played a role in the killings.


Nancy Benoit tested positive for Xanax, hydrocodone and the painkiller hydromorphone. Daniel Benoit had Xanax in his system, authorities said. The GBI said it could not perform tests for steroids or human growth hormones on the boy because of a lack of urine.


Nancy Benoit's body had a blood-alcohol level of 0.184 percent, more than twice the level at which Georgia law considers a driver intoxicated. But, Sperry said, that level may have been affected by decomposition.


Federal authorities have charged Chris Benoit's personal physician, Dr. Phil Astin, with improperly prescribing painkillers and other drugs to two patients other than Benoit. He has pleaded not guilty.


Investigators have also raided Astin's office several times since the deaths, seizing prescription records and other documents.


Before he was charged, Astin told the AP he had prescribed testosterone for Benoit, a longtime friend, in the past. He would not say what, if any, medications he prescribed when Benoit visited his office June 22, the day authorities believe Benoit killed his wife.


World Wrestling Entertainment last screened Benoit for steroids in April. It said the results released Tuesday were proof Benoit did not test positive for illegal substances.


"All it means is that scientifically, it's now known that sometime between April 10 and when he died, he had treatment with testosterone," said Jerry McDevitt, a WWE attorney. "That's all it establishes."


Copyright 2007 The Associated Press.

POPS
07-20-2007, 03:59 PM
John Kronus from The Eliminators was found dead in his girlfriends apt yesterday. Not that he's as big a name as Benoit was but this will add more fuel to the media wildfire. I really liked the Eliminators back in the day in ECW. Kronus was bad as hell and so was Perry Saturn.

5-1 odds on Angle-
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ritty
08-06-2007, 04:08 PM
I'm not much of a wrestling fan, but I am a fan of Bill Simmons who writes for espn.com and has a podcast through them as well. His most recent podcast (the B.S. Report) featured an interview with Dave Meltzer who has written a wrestling newsletter for many many years. They of course talked about the Benoit situation, where Meltzer had some particularly cool insight, but then they got into an even more interesting discussion about the marketing of wrestling and touched on issues involving the writing and promotion, as well as competition from mixed martial arts and such. It was a really cool interview, helped somewhat by the fact that Simmons is a wrestling fan from way back. I was curious to see if you had heard this interview, Pops, and if not, maybe point you in its direction. You can access from espn.com or iTunes.

Still Just Visiting
08-16-2007, 09:46 PM
What's the latest on this, Pops?

berzac
08-17-2007, 01:53 PM
Jimmy Kimmel's joke about Benoit was the funniest part of the roast. Too soon? Not soon enough!

POPS
08-17-2007, 04:38 PM
I thought the Kimmel spot was hilarious. because I'm still an improviser. some industry guys here got hot about it. but that shit is exactly something over the top and cutting that I would say in an improv show. so it was definitely over w/ me. plus after benoit did the crime I'm not putting him over as a great man anymore.

The Brian Adams aka Crush death this week could be a baaaad omen for Vince. Especially after Vince calls out Congress on RAW after receiving a letter from them. TNA got theirs this week as well. I can post it if you want to see it. It directly mentions the Benoit tragedy as a basis. bottom line Vince is the fucking man.

For anybody reading this...I'll post more later on this..but next week will be my biggest week in wrestling on Thursday night. if people are interested in coming down on a road trip that would rule. it's also my birthday that night as well. just putting it out there. would love it if somebody wanted to come.

tyler's a douche-
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